Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of marijuana slang terms

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No consensus. D e ath phoenix 18:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of marijuana slang terms[edit]

Delete. Listcruft and slang. Arundhati bakshi 11:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree completely. It is the responsibility of Wikipedia to be complete, including slang of all varieties. Couch 05:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFT Slang is for dictionaries, not encyclopedias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arundhati bakshi (talk • contribs)

Do not delete Individual slang words are for a dictionary, but there are numerous articles of slang indexes related to a pasttime, culture, music style, etc. I have been revising this article greatly to make it a legitimate entry. Ludwjt5 03:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You may want to make use of the {{inuse}} template if you are in the process of editing to let others know its a work in progress. Arundhati bakshi

Do not delete: I believe the internet, especially Wikipedia, should have full liberty of content. User-submitted content should not be modified or deleted. If we were to go about deleting content because it has slang terms for drugs, then why not just go ahead and delete any page with any drug references or profanity? Why not just remove every contraversial subject on Wikipedia including images on human reproductive anatomy? The reason is because it would just be further depriving people of their liberties and placing greater abridgements on our rights. Furthermore, the entire reason for limiting speech is to "protect our children." Our children are not being protected by being blinded. Please Wikipedia, understand that ieveryone should have the freedom to provide whatever information they wish on the internet and that this site, especially, should be no exeption. User:Morthian 22:18 EST, 15 February 2006
- I did not suggest deletion because there were references to drugs. I suggested deletion because wikipedia is not for lists of slangs. See what Wikipedia is not for more details. It specifically says in section 1.2 this is not a dictionary and not for slangs. Make it into a proper article (like the one on Bhang) and it might be a candidate for retention. Wikipedia is not for anything anyone wants to post but an encyclopedia and there are guideleines that must be followed. See 1.2 in above link for details. I said nothing about limitng speech or protecting children in my vote to delete, but voted to delete because this is not an article, just a list of non-notable slang. Other drug references or articles on human anatomy are real articles, not lists of slangs. If they aren't, they should also be deleted or placed within a sensible context. Arundhati bakshi 11:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - I see. Sorry about that. Although, I would think that a list like this would be in an encyclopedia rather than a dictionary or thesaurus, as these terms are not just synonyms. I suppose the definitions of the slang terms could be defined in a dictionary under each word, but then that defeats the purpose of a list. Perhaps some people like reading up on the list and learning various street terms. I haven't really looked into this type of situation too much, so perhaps I am wrong about the article's placement. As long as the deletion of the article has nothing to do with limitations of content, I am not really bothered. User:Morthian 15:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Hit err I mean Strong Delete - WP is not a dictionary. But Wiktionary is and already has an entry about this: Wiktionary:Wiktionary Appendix:Cannabis Slang. --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 13:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as Wikipedia is not a dictionary. --Ter e nc e Ong 14:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as listcruft... It has nothing to do with "protecting the children". Shit, most of them probably know this slang by High School. It has to do with this being a contextless list of slang terms. And I'm disappointed you don't have Northern Lights on there...--Isotope23 15:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki merge to Wictionary article above (this list does have terminology the Wiktionary list lacks). --Karnesky 16:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Neutral. This is not just slang terms for MJ; it's slang terms related to MJ culture. There is not a place on Wiktionary to collect all this information together, and it seems like an interesting list.--ragesoss 20:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- A place can be created on wiktonary for this. As noted above, WP isn't a slang dictionary. --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 20:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was just taking a closer look at that. It seems intuitively to me like WP is a more appropriate place for this than wiktionary, so I suppose I disagree with that bit of policy, but I don't really have grounds to argue for keeping a particular case.--ragesoss 20:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unmaintainable. Add links to external lists to main article - that makes sense. Pavel Vozenilek 21:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete slnag-list-cruft.Blnguyen 02:51, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki merge to Wictionary as suggested by Karnesky. Crypticfirefly 05:28, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki to Wiktionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary or a repository for lists of words. Stifle 13:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See Military slang, List of lumberjack jargon, List of slang used in hip-hop music, etc. Are these also of no reference value? Ludwjt5 19:57, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- They have some reference value, but none belong in an encyclopaedia. Arundhati bakshi 04:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
People interested in this debate might also be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of US railfan jargon and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of UK railfan jargon (2nd nomination). --Karnesky 16:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Jargon is slightly, but significatly, different from slang. Slang is very current and mutable, whereas jargon tends to be more fixed. --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 00:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. These jargon lists are very useful for understanding many of the articles here so why not marijuana? The terms have enormous reference value and properly belong in an encyclopedia article that can provide a scholarly overview of usage with context and sources. -- JJay 22:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per JJay. While Wikipedia is not a dictionary, neither is Wictionary an encylopedia, and an encylopedia seems the best place for this article. Turnstep 00:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you think Wiktionary:Wiktionary Appendix:Cannabis Slang should be merged to here, then? In what way is the article (a list of defined jargon) better-suited for an encyclopedia? --Karnesky 11:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I would suggest modifying the entry to reference context of the phrases, but the information should stay, even in its current form. 05:26, 20 February 2006 (CST)
Delete. Unverifiable, indiscriminate, unmaintainable stonercruft. This list is like open season for things made up in school one day. -- Krash (Talk) 18:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if our encyclopedia has to play host to List of ethnic slurs and other lists of slang, this is certainly keepable. Carlossuarez46 19:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I know this is a strange vote for me but there is a lot of confusion in the medical community regarding illicit drug use. Half of them are completely sheltered and have no idea what anything is. The other half, admittedly, know too much and could write such lists. The former need access and education about this topic. Ifnord 23:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed, but surely this list should be a wikitonary appendix, not a wikipedia article? --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 23:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Rename Wikipedia may not be a dictionary, but wiktionary does not maintain glossaries or lists whereas wikipedia does. Propose rename to List of marijuana cultural slang, since this list isn't composed entirely of synonyms for marijuana. Shaggorama 01:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What do you call Wiktionary Appendix:Cannabis_Slang? --Karnesky 14:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki with separare article for each entry. Add a suitable category indicating they are drug usage related slangs to bind them, the purpose for which this have been put on Wikipedia in the first place. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.